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Soon he was blaming the acoustics in his demo room. I looked at him and said "Buddy, I have the same hard reflective surfaces in my room at home Hardly enough room for a set of bipolars for optimum sound I walked out and left the store. All of you that think I just spent the last how many minutes typing this for my own pleasure think again. This is all true and if any of you are thinking about spending loads of cash on speakers, do yourself a favor and shop around.
I realize that many of you love these speakers but I really don't think you have listened to much of anything else. I know there big and intimadating looking and rate very high on the impress-your-friends scale. I also know that some of you actually question your purchase of Nuance but people don't like to get burned. So, pyscologicaly you think they sound great Heaven forbid I wouldn't want that. I just don't like to get screwed. Hook 2 sets of speakers up and see which ones sound the best.
If Nuance is so wonderful, then why at least here in edmonton do they not sell them beside another speaker that could potentialy change the consumers mind? I'll tell you why. Two reasons. Because then most would agree that they do sound terrible bloated lows, no nice crisp cymbal crashing highs, a mid that sounds like a megaphone; I don't need to go on.
The second is the most important-the markup. The amount of money it takes to make one of these is scandoulus considering what they are selling these for. All of you Nuance reps out there reading this ya you know who you are know there is a lot more to be had for 8 Grand than this crap. And, as a rep, if you don't know, then the company loves you. Because your selling an inferior product to people that don't know any better and taking them to the cleaners. Thinking that because they spent big bucks it HAS to be good.
I say Ignorance is bliss, on both ends. Second-The writer below says there is no tricks with the CDs they play, it simple 2 channel. CDs one can buy in the store. He's absolutley right. However, these discs that they like to demo for music do have an ace up their sleeve. They image. They image very well. They do this because of Q-sound, an old technology being used on these state of the art speakers.
Nothing more than tricking the mind into hearing things where they shouldn't be coming from. Why do they use Madonna's greatest hits as demo material? Because its encoded with Q sound, especially the track Vogue. That disc is over 10 years old. Wheres some newer demo material? Its old hat, nobody really encodes with Q Sound anymore.
Theres another speaker manufacturer that uses the same trick, but its not so much with the software. Its DCM Timewindows and they have actually designed speakers that make you think your hearing stuff behind you.
Its not nearly as effective as a 5. And its way less money. And it has worked. They say nobody can out do them with their 10 year warranty.
Sure, its amps and not speakers, but their prone to breaking down too, like everything else we as consumers buy. To touch on the Q sound idea again, every speaker images to a point and all Nuance did was grab a theme Q sound and go with it.
Nobody knows about Q sound so they can manipulate them into believing that the state of the art Nuance speakers are reproducing this. Simple as that. And thousands have bought into it.
As for the sound of them They want you to think they are expensive and have a polypropelene look to them. It's just paper woofers with some hardening substance on them.
If they left them just paper it would probably sound better, but these audio scammers at Nuance know that the look of the speaker is almost as important as the sound. If it looks good, it sounds good. And anyway, who wants to admit that they got burnt for thousands? Or there bigger. Or whatever. A fraction of the price with 10 times the sound. Or, if your feeling adventurous, check out some hi-fi shops. Great deals can be had there too.
Privateer Full Audioholic. Shacks everything and is syphony concert quility sound. Cygnus Senior Audioholic. I don't know Whatever floats your boat, I suppose! Buckeyefan 1 said:.
Joey, no disrespect here, but I've seen too many threads on Nuance not to mention this. This was taken directly from the Home Theater Forum. The truth about Nuance Speakers. Takeereasy Audioholic General. Nuance is s disreputable company that has been sued class action style in Edmonton. They are charged with artificially overpricing their products.
They only sold their products through unsavoury dealerships that used high pressure sales tactics and bold faced lies to try and close a deal. Now there may not be anything wrong with a Ford Fiesta.. Nuance is one deceptive company IMO. Takeereasy said:. I'm not a big fan of their company but I don't think Nuance speakers will blow up in the event of a rear collision.
Spiffyfast Audioholic General. Wow, people definately have a distaste for this brand, kind of reminds of a similair brand that focus on very small little cube speakers and charges thousands for them There is a massive difference between Bose and Nuance.
The vendors use high pressure sales, make that very high pressure sales, tactics to get you to buy on the spot. They also will lie and mislead you at every possible moment. I don't want to go into a whole speil here, but by the time I left the store I felt dirty. The tactics were so high pressure, and they lied and prodded and jabbed at me every 2 damn seconds. The staff was either incompetent or lied to, and very obviously working on commision.
The shop that sold Nuance at our local mall was forced to leave by management after too many complaints. I hoped it was because they went out of business, but it wasn't.
The same store has a branch in Toronto at Square One mall. There was a nice thread here on AH about this store and their sales tactics. Nuance sells an inferior product at an insane price. That is where the similarities between Bose and Nuance stop. Bose doesn't employ scam artists and fly by night shops to sell their products. And the last time I checked the only audio store to carry Bose products only was the Bose store. Essentially my point is this. Bose is an example of what marketing can do for a company if conducted agressively and correctly.
I don't like Bose but they have never done anything to make my skin crawl. Nuance is the same thing as white van speakers IMO and is an example of the worst kind of predation in the speaker world. Last edited: Jul 18, Thanks for clarifying, by the other posts it didn't sound as though the sales people were purposely misleading customers. Note that these post are usually someone fishing to see if they can grab some new, unsuspecting sucker I mean, customers.
It's the same post every time, just to see whether or not people respond negatively to it. I just ignore them normally. I have had 2 sets of Nuance speakers for 5 and 7 years.
I come from a family of professional musicians so I feel that I have a trained ear. I have never had any technical problem at all, and I have 3 teenagers who crank up the sound on a regular basis.
These criticisms sound set up by disgruntled people. So, I know all about the reasons for hating Nuance. Speakers that pretend to be more than they are, terrible sales tactics, a terrible predatory company, and just all around bad vibes. Bi-wire-able and the cabs are built like tanks.
Not bad at all, in fact. A bit brighter and more bassy than I like, but a tiny tweak on the EQ has me sitting with a set of quite capable speakers. They also seem quite efficient and can really crank.
I gave in before they did, they played clean and clear as high as I could stand to drive them. So I have to ask, are the speakers themselves actually as bad as everyone makes them out to be?
Are some sets better than others? It seems that this set is from before they started their predatory marketing tactics, so maybe the speakers themselves are also different? Prop film on paper and all that, but the cabs seem to be built very solid, and the drivers can definitely handle power.
So, forgetting the company itself for a second.. Jaredsavage , Jun 14, Messages: 3, Location: Northern Ontario. Very cheap divers, dual binding posts that are technically not dual, you cannot bi-amp with them. They were sold through legitimate dealers though they used a very scetchy demo using Q-sound discs with a Nuance sales rep that happened to be around a lot. They would always turn the speakers backwards and play a Q-sound disc it would amaze people who never heard Q-sound with sounds appearing from all over the place.
However they were not the worst sounding speakers ever made I'd take those in your pic over Bose 's any day.
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